Posts by Vernon Williams

i sent the following email to trevor following the revelation of trevorgate a few days back.. trevor [or whatever your real name is] - this is not hate mail.

and it won't be long.

i have like 5 minutes before i leave for work.

Vernon Williams

Jeff,

Hey, good attempt for closure...I just missed all this and I am too tired to go back through all the threads. I have this to say:

Most, here, I believe are as up front as possible. If any one wants to visit me: just drive down Nellie on the North side of Monett, MO, pull in and we can have a cup of coffee. Give me a week notice, though, or Mrs Williams will kill me.

I have talked to several: I, as I said, have known Brant Jones all my life, AK Jeff: he is real, and, there are many here that, if you wanted to you could have lunch with....look at all the photos on the "fests" if you do not believe me.

Ex JWs are, as a group, the coolest folks on the planet....I have told many that. The whole "Trevor" deal...no matter what the truth is about the man (?), is a sad abnormality. So, I just blow it off as the hoax it was and continue, as I can, to encourage and invite those thinking of stepping into light and freedom....It is the best we can do or hope for...

Yours in this Struggle,

My take,

V

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Quotable Quotes; Please Add Yours ...

by compound complex in

the endeavor to compel all men to think alike on all subjects,.

culminated in the great apostasy and the development of the .

great papal system; and thereby the 'gospel,' the 'one faith,'.

Vernon Williams

"The accumulative effect of all small things is, always, greater than the largest single event."

By Vernon Williams in regard to maintenance mechanics, specifically, and Life, generally.

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Happy Anniversary to Me!

by Crumpet in

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never one to blow her own trumpet (yeah right) i thought i'd come in and thank you all for three years of entertainment, life changing information, reunions with old friends and the making of so many new ones.. i'm glad i came here.. (wonders if what ip sec said on the trevor gate thread about this board being so nice three years ago was a dig at me....).

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oh yes and happy anniversary to fullofdoubtnow in advance for 24th october.

Vernon Williams

Folks, like you, add spice to the board.

Me.....part of the flour and water base to whatever we are cooking...and, thats ok...

Congrads,

V

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Site on iIllustrations

by Vernon Williams in

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here is a neat site on illustrations.

the artists works in pencil and this page:.

http://www.howarddavidjohnson.com/pencil.htm.

Vernon Williams

Here is a neat site on illustrations. The artists works in pencil and this page:

http://www.howarddavidjohnson.com/pencil.htm

shows how he accomplishes his work.

Down the page are icons where one can move around the site and observe different themes.

I thought this was pretty cool.

Take care,

V

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I was called "The Dog" tonight

by restrangled in

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i am very angry.

i visited the active talk site tonight, identified myself as restrangled as most of you know who i am, and skally referred to me as "the dog".

i have been a member for just about 2 years, contributed cash to those in need without question, supported those in any way i could and my husband has done the same.. i am beyond hurt..i.thought myself and my husband had supported your cause......to be called "the dog" by one one of your most prominent members lets me know we don't count for squat no matter what we do...much like the witnesses.. thanks skally...you made my day today.. r.. .

Vernon Williams

Re,

I did not know there was an "active talk site."

Hope you reconsider and hang around...I am still getting to know folks....hard to keep up.

All are needed.

Take care,

V PS: I would have taken the comment in reference to your avatar, too......don't know...wasn't there...

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Hortensia. I send love and my thoughts out to you at this time of loss.

by Sparkplug in

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i saw this earlier.. i'm so sorry - it must be painful for two people who love each other to have to part this way - one goes through the door alone and the other stays behind alone.

all the more because my wonderful nephew was killed in an auto accident today, a young man with three children.

death is so cruel.. and in the wake of such terrible news today, i did not miss what you had said, but rather blocked it out for a moment.

Vernon Williams

Hortensia,

I missed the post, too.

Shoulder hug and empathy from SW MO.....

Take care,

With you,

V

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Sweetface's father has a message for everyone here!

by sweetface2233 in

after being raised as a jw, my dad was df'd for the 2nd time in 1994. that year he lost a wife, 3 children, mother and brother, as well as every friend he had made throughout his 40 years of life.

over the years my sister and i gradually started contacting him, but never had a real father/daughter relationship.

a few years ago, during my divorce, he and i sat down and started discussing his feelings.

Vernon Williams

Sweet,

People want to do a lot of damage to the WT for the hurt they have caused.

People like you Dad are doing the most damage of all: how? By living successful, happy lives post WT. They torpedo the GB better than anyone else.

I am glad you and your Dad are together...so many are not.

Tell him one, old hillbilly agrees and sends his best.

With you,

V

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My meeting with the elders.. I TOTALLY WIMPED OUT

by AWAKE&WATCHING in

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i agreed to speak to 2 elders from the congregation that i was in from when i started my bible study in 1979 to when i disassociated myself in 1990. i was in the same congregation when i got re-instated in 2001 until i got married and moved to another congregation (30 miles away) a year later.

when i left my husband in aug. of this year i had already quit going to meetings for about 4 months.

i moved back to the same town i lived in before, of course never going to the hall.. i talked to them because i wanted closure for myself and my best friend and also my husband, both of them thought if i would just have the meeting with the elders that i would be re-adjusted.

Vernon Williams

A and W,

Good effort. There is not much to say. These people, as nice as they appear, are not on the side of Truth.....period. You are. Therefore, there exists a chasm between you and them. The only thing that can bridge the gap is honest dialoge. They are NOT capable of that. They have decided turning mind, heart, and conscience over to another is the better road.

Also, like the majority of those supporting the GB, they will lie in a heartbeat if truthfullness means opposition to the GB. You are not the kind of person.

There is no "closure" in this situaion. The WT is a black hole sucking minds and hearts into it. The best thing is distance...get away. Leave people that trade truth for agreement to thier delusion and illusion. There are much better things to do.

With you in this Struggle and respecting your intent and effort.

Lesson learned.

V